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>> good afternoon. welcome to the san francisco board of supervisors land use and economic committee i'm scott wiener and supervisor kim and our clerk is lisa miller and i want to thank sfgovtv for broadcasting especially stacey and charles. madam clerk any items >> yes. the items that are on the agenda will be announced
later. >> item number is a zoning map to create the restrict use district. >> and the author it supervisor cowen and the supervisor asked for an extension of september 30th. so we'll take public comment and i'll be entertaining a motion to fine. my comment on one? seeing none, public comment is closed >> to continue for two weeks. >> and we'll fact that without observation. >> item 2 is an ordinance to authorize financing by special districts to bring the service buildings into policy.
>> this is an effort to move it mr. patrick lane i didn't and a good afternoon supervisors with the city of san francisco. before you say one of any pieces of legislation that are needed to get the green finance committee to be able to issue loans for seismic retrofits. there are differences between the materials retrofitting the buildings helps extend the lifespan so by preserving those buildings we're expanding the materials from being diverted to waste materials and the department of environment has been a wonderful partner and it's a way to make the policy
program more applicable and stinging the structures. i'm variable for any questions and so is my staff >> thank you very much. any questions >> could you go a little bit more into the history so if you can go into the history. >> absolutely so it was established a few years ago but basically, their issuing this means our not given a bill for the property. and many people of the this an interesting balance it is catered by your property. the loan transfers with the property this is an advantageous way to finance the work.
it leaves it open for an example like a large public school they can have this opposite but really addressing the software legislation. with when we started we are that going to start a separate program and as we went through this we realized to join them together to save the city a couple of million dollars. so we're, you know, activating >> what is the project for the loans. >> it depends upon the bonds are sold and it teptdz to be more advantageous for interest rates. >> how many property owners
have participated and a to my knowledge one. >> who was that? i believe it was pro lodges >> hi supervisors department of the environment and we have had one borrow we closed $1.4 million out of pier one to install efficiency projects. >> do we want more participation or is it part of an outreach education effort or is this legislation vaunlz for property owners. >> we can as part of our program reach a whole new set of property owners that are subjected to the requirements of the ordinance.
we're finding it's a imply program and there's a lot of education that all the stakeholders need to understand the proposition of how this financing works in terms of reducing operating expenses but we're seeing a dramatic uptick in the interest so getting the case study out there so other building owners can see how it works >> thank you very much. >> okay seeing no other comments or questions - i'm sorry, sir hold on. there's also an amendment being proposed. okay, sir >> john detective city attorney so i've distributed proposed amendments we're been working on. increases a process in this
legislation for the special district it has a few hearings at the board and the proposed amendment will still have a hearing at the board and newspaper notice 7 days in advance before the hearing occurs and the board adopts the resolution but it tights up the process for making changes to the special district he larger technical changes >> thank you very much. okay. at this point we'll open it up for public comment. public comment will be for two minutes >> any public comment on item 2, please come forward. >> hello, i'm john. i was foerl perpetrating my papers to you in the board of chambers. i want to make comments on the
item 2 which is the special tax financing law. i lived in apartment 547 page street so this is the complex public assess k o g tv. i currently live at a boarding room on 2011 jennings street. especially earliest one, two and 3. briefly section 120 of this code election dates as specified in charter session on tuesday after the first monday in november and
every year thereafter there should be held an election known as the general election. i'm reminding you my name was there on record and i made some statements on that day >> thank you very much. is there any additional comment on item number 2 increase? seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues we have before us a proposed amendment to item number 2 could i have a motion to mansion that amendment >> yes. >> we'll take that without objection could i have a motion to forward it manufacture that madam clerk call item number 3.
>> this was the light rail fleet reliability and ease maintenance and problems and overall operational projection. >> colleagues i called for this hearing to shed light on the l r vs and to learn more about the procurement process so the process is fair tranquility and designed to make sure that muni has reliable and light rail vehicles. this will replace the fleet is a once in a generation opportunity to purchase high quality reliable l r vs for our city. the residents require those and
as well as a much growing need that is going to add $150,000 thousands residents that will be relying on public transit. we have a daily passenger load and a critical part of our transportation you system. unfortunately, the state of the l r vs is not a happy one. our first generations the boring were called let me ones fortunately we no longer have them. our currency ones have several design problems that you are the doors are sometimes breaking easy. and when they break the entire subway can meltdown. we have had thereby with the com
that you give us system. their fragile and they impact other systems. they weigh too much and case loud noises. in addition muni doesn't have is sufficient of them because their broken down. muni has only 50 percent of them on week days. not having ordered enough in the 1990s. and in addition muni hadn't rehabilitated it's l r v that were in need of renovation and fortunately that's changing. those problems with the l r vs including the design challenges have problems it's unreliable and all two freckle melts down,
rush hours are ruined and frustration leflgz are high. it's a completely unacceptable situation and an sawedable one. our exchanges are going to get more severe as our city grows along market and south of market, mission bay and a hunters point pier 70 and pier that 32 and park merced all areas that rely on this service and people arriving on high rail system will need to congressmen. without dramatically more
consistent and light rail service we're in for a bad situation in terms of the future of our transit system and we'll struggle economically. fortunately we can start to address this situation. in addition to right back this process we can purchase rails and muni recently issued a request for this and the procurement process will modus operandi move forward. the contract will need to be approved by the board of supervisors and this will make sure the mta is proposing a contract will will lead to a good process.
mta has one shot to get this right. the stakes for our city and munis riders are way too high. i want to invite up john to make a presentation. and mr. hale i didn't welcome >> thank you, mr. a chairman and a committee members. i think in terms of an introduction we are you've state is very well, we're at a critical junction. for all the issues we're dealing with on a day by day basis we continue to put programs and actions in place to try to improve the service but clearly going forward to meet the demands of the future and to make sure we have the
reliability and get the useful life that the public has invested in those light cars it's important to talk about some of those things but first, as i stated no one is views the reliability to be accepted. two points to make primarily on this slide. first of all, is that the relationship with the system any delay in the system has 5 lines. everything goes through the subway and i'll talk about why a that's important to vehicles later but clearly that's one of the take waterways. the other one say we track as a cause of delays some 70 percent are mechanical repelled.
that means if our in the subway someone has to go in and diagnoses the process and the compleblth of the oscars made it difficult. in looking breaking down the delays first, the doors and step. the doors and steps are mechanically complex with over 2 hundred moving parts that are fragile and they cause a number of issues in the subway. for those of you who run the service we carry the crowds all kinds of door issues people hold the door to let their friends or another passenger come in. the door can be what's called time out the operator has to find the door and reset it.
so the complexity of the declining design impacts the services but it adds to our maintenance costs but to do a simple repair process. the time and mechanic office hours far exceeds what it should of. so we try to in the procurement process to build in a maintain ability factor. the other pro pulls if you go through our delays one of the things that causes a problem is something called an intact valve it's a filter that regulates all
the fifth and in our particular case by locating it under the car it serves as a vacuum so when a lc r v goes down the street it picks up water. we change the filters every other day but it causes the system to fail and we have to stop the cars. most l r vs have an intact for compulsion. that's one of the highlights we've tried to learn from. the other thing it's not possible to have a standard l r v car. we have a shorter and the turning radius is shortlyer we have a manual operation and some
very tight curves if you think about delores park and 9th those are not the turning radius is very tight. we've done in some cases, you see the brake train control there's a series of cables that freckle come louis loose and they shut down the train. it leads to long delays and it's hard to fix and diagnose the problem. one of the things we're looking at is the easy of maintain ability to set up a process that not only weighs the process of the vehicle and the feature. that's just a quick overview
>> in terms of the brake and the system what are the exchanges. >> well, the brake and the system have enter connected, you know, with cables articulated cables that carry basically, the communications. i know i don't mean to answer this in an indirect way but the braking systems are controlled through cables that are train lined through all vehicles in the cup letterheads. the cup letter he heads effect all the new mask systems and some say train control because they carry all the intelligence for the system. the cup letters you occasionally
see them exposed and that means that the sensitive cup letters especially on one train they're not quizzed to the air. >> so the prepulltion are those primarily design related? yes, their - they are design related. i use if you were to take an intact value which is a credible part in most other l r vs or railcars were on the roof of the car but in this case it's underneath and exposed to the elements that's a reliability
headache so we would, you know, clearly not want to have in any new procurement have a design that has a critical element under the car >> so in terms of - so the prepulltion doors those account for 67 percent or two-thirds of the vehicle mechanical delays in the system for our l r vs. >> a that's correct. >> and is brakes are those design related. >> their design related in the sense i would characterize them as difficult to diagnose diagnose and maine maintain. because the design of the cables for example, are stiff. and when you go around and see
the turns on 9 accounting it puts great stress on the cable so the cables break and you have to constitute down the power and open the cable and shut done the service to find the problem >> so the pro pull shin door issues are accounted for two-thirds of the l r v mechanic problems or delays in the system and then if you add the break the percent is up and yeah. it's related to how the system interacts with for example, one other design issue on the car is the antennas are located on the under side of the car and that
also when you have a system that's as unforgiving as ours you want to have that so the antennas can be respected right now. we'd view that in explaining this what we've tried to do is take a look at the system and maintenance system and talk to the manufacturers. that's the process we followed in the new cars rather than us sitting in a room and designing we had a conversation with a number of folks we have a single point of failure from a support standpoint what can i do to give
us a different kind of door how would you design it. that's the dialog we've had throughout the process >> in terms of the weight of those light rail vehicles i know that's been - i know it's been challenging in imply district where they weigh so much that it causes squealing on the street and vibration can you talk about that. >> what it does is some of the noise you hear it puts pressure on the trucks and some of the noise like the clique is a result of the pressure that the trucks are putting onto the infrastructure. and we have over the last several months tried to
aggressively replace track to try to mitigate that problem but the weight of the car is a big issue. and whether or not there was a complete alignment with the weight of the car, you know, what's the right way, it's heavier than specified. i don't know how that evolved over 15 years ago but clearly the weight of the cars is an important factor. when we make the choice or set up criteria to evaluate getting new cars is important >> i have a key question on how we're going to make sure that we don't as and transition to a new generation of l r vs that's
opportunity to approve the car so how do we purchase cars that are not vulnerable to those types of issues. >> well, i think the step is the appropriate one we've taken to take to the experts that build l r vs all over the world. this is a significant procurement. we're attempting to address the needs of a growing generation. i don't think it's possible to over state the importance of it. so step one for us was to take a look at the kind of data and here's the issues we're having with our currency fleet and talk to the administers. the car is too heavy and the
doors have two many moving parts they too difficult to fix and diagnose par what could you do differently with the vrnd there's things in the system we can't change we have to have a short car because of the curves and even with all that what is the it you can over. so we've had several months of dialog with a number of manufacturesers that led us to go to a more performance factor. we want something down to specific dimensions. we need a door that's going to be kijd a minimum